TODAY'S ISSUE

Company owner maintains programs
backed by Democrats helped country
By Hoyt Tuggle
President
Graphic Communications, Lawrenceville
Special to GwinnettForum.com

NOV. 15, 2002 -- While many are having fun vilifying and rejoicing at the problems the Democrats have brought upon themselves, I thought it might be appropriate to point out some of the differences between the two parties.


Tuggle

While you are trying to think of one bill the Republicans have passed to help the working men and women of this country, let me list a few that the Democrats have.

* Child Labor Laws
* Social Security
* Civil Rights Act
* All Minimum Wage Laws
* Peace Corps
* Environmental Laws
* Unemployment insurance
* Marshall Plan
* Flood-disaster insurance
* Rural electricity (REA)
* Saving the Banking Industry by the creation of the FDIC and the FSLIC
* Saving of Wall Street by the creation of the Securities and Exchange Commission
* Saving of the oil industry by replacing the rule of capture with pro-rationing.

Democrats passed all of these and even more over the sometimes-staunch opposition of Republicans. Ironically, one of the bills most bitterly opposed by the Republicans was the G.I. Bill of Rights. Imagine that!

My Republican friends say, "Well, that was in the past.' Well, how about the World Congress Center, the Georgia Coliseum, and the 1996 Olympic Games here, all opposed by the Georgia Republican Party. Are these recent enough and close enough to home? And by the way which party is responsible for a Georgia Constitution which requires Georgia to balance its budget each and every year?

I believe we have been where the Republicans want to take us. The years between 1865 and 1932 are the kind of society I believe the Republicans want us to have. No niacin in the flour, no fluoride in the water, no vaccination programs, no student loans. I could go on and on, but as my friends say, 'Well, that's in the past."

I seem to get the impression that too many people today think their success is strictly of their own doing and they do not give any credit to the social environment and social infrastructure that has been created over the last 70 years, mostly by Democrats who have controlled Congress the majority of that time.

When an individual believes that his or her success is entirely of their own doing they feel no obligation to pay 'dues' in the form of taxes. They resent paying more taxes than others and especially resent any of their money going to anyone who pays little or no taxes. (My emphasis.)

Before you jump to the conclusion that I am a retired union member, I am not. I founded a small business 30 years ago on a shoestring. It has grown into a family business employing over 50 people. We have not received any financial support from any government (no SBA loans). We have financed the business through personal sacrifice, loans from commercial banks and equipment vendors.

America is the greatest nation on the face of the Earth, I am proud to be an American----and a Democrat---- and I feel blessed to have been born an American with all the opportunities it has provided.
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ELLIOTT BRACK
Must have seemed like an eternity to GOP
to see movement in two-party system
By Elliott Brack
editor and publisher

GwinnettForum.com

From the Gwinnett Extra of the Atlanta Journal Constitution, February 6, 1994. by Elliott Brack:

"Yet one Wednesday morning some November day in the future, while Democrats have been asleep at the switch, Georgians are going to awaken and find a Republican elected governor. The crystal ball says: power is shifting toward Republicans in Georgia. And as Gwinnett has shown, this shift often can come quite suddenly."

NOV. 15, 2002 - - We bring this quote from the past not to show our prognosticating abilities, but to show that this change has been a long time coming, even when we all knew it would eventually take place. It took eight years from that writing to happen, which must have seemed like an eternity to Republicans.

Now Georgia looks to see if Republicans can grasp the handle of state power and hold on, as the Democrats have so convincingly for 130 years.

For ages, lots of editorialists, including this one, have championed the idea of a two-party state. It should serve Georgia well. After all, a two-party system offers more checks and balances than a system controlled by a single machine which has no effective opposition.

While in the past Republicans could jump up and down and yell loudly about Democratic shenanigans such as reapportionment, with no effect, now power is divided. At least in Georgia voters did not give unilateral support to one party, as the nation gave control of both Houses of Congress to one party, plus having the presidential reins.

Two party politics is still a long way from being a reality in many counties of Georgia. Yet farmers and mill workers throughout Georgia are supporting Republicans in national and state offices. Eventually, this could work down to the county level, though many Democrats in office must either retire or die off for this to happen in many areas.

Now Georgia has split authority of a governor and Senate controlled by one party, and the House of Representatives controlled by another. In our way of thinking, a shared governing is good. It reduces the excesses of any one party to a need to negotiate the differences. It's something never seen in Georgia for all of our lives, and should prove not only beneficial to our state, but most interesting to follow.

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Enough of the heavy lifting about the current political season. Now let's turn our attention in a new direction, a listing of prime importance for people trying to make their way along the political paths.

A Gwinnett list of ins and outs with the new governor.

Being loyal is out; changing parties is in.

Attorneys are out; farmers are in.

Hair is out; bald is in.

Metro Atlanta is out; rural Georgia and suburbs are in.

Suits are out; jeans are in.

The House is out; Senate is in.

The AJC is out; The Macon Telegraph is in.

Methodists are out; Baptists are in.

Bobby Kahn is out; Michael Bowers is in.

The A&J Tasty Pig is out; JR's Log House is in.

Gwinnett's business mafia is out; elected legislators are in.

Now that we think of it, we doubt it will take long for Gwinnett's business mafia to be "In."

Send us your own thoughts of what is now "Out" and "In."
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FEEDBACK:
11/15: Michigan native views Georgia political scene

Editor, The Forum:

I am a conservative Republican but...I moved here from Michigan via Texas. Over 50 percent of this state is non-Georgia born. My ancestors came to the United States in 1905. I don't have an iron in this (flag) fire. The Civil War was over long before most of us were even here.

I wanted a new flag as much as the next transplant. I know the 1956 history of the old flag. Let us vote on the flag and we will vote to change it. It wouldn't even be close. The pro-1956 flag faction is tiny, but energized by the undemocratic way the change occurred. Give them a forum, let them lose in public, and watch them go away. Quietly.

The problem with what Barnes did is he did it in secret, like a king. He believed the ends justified the means. That is dangerous to you and me. A true leader of a free people could have made the argument to change the flag, and done it in public. He knew he couldn't - he didn't have the leadership skills, but he did have deal-making skills. He wouldn't let the people vote because he was afraid - afraid he would lose. Once he lost, all his power would be gone.

Even worse, he gave us an ugly flag!

If Sonny Perdue puts the flag to a vote, look for him to lead the way in voting to change it. He understands the process and how it needs to work. When he has put the flag to rest, and we have a new flag, he may be unstoppable.

Keep agitating me - that makes your columns worth reading!

-- Bob Pociask, Snellville

(Editor's note: One of your thoughts got us to reseaching, and here is what the ARC says about percent of people born in Georgia and Gwinnett:
Per Cent U.S. Born Population Born in Georgia
Year Percent
1960 81%
1970 74%
1980 72%
1990 66% (Gwinnett 47%)
2000 62% (Gwinnett 45%)
We suspect that the percentage native born in Gwinnett is going down because of all the influx of people moving in faster than we can birth babies, even though Gwinnett births a lot of babies!---eeb)

11/15: Quite the stirring of a hornet's nest

Editor, the Forum:

Goodness, I didn't realize that you had stirred up a hornets' nest. Interesting the feedback in the last issue. Thank goodness someone has the sense to identify the main reason for the vote for Perdue as the re-districting. Some may like to foster the idea that Georgians are still in the dark ages of segregation. We actually have pretty good sense and are capable of making decisions, based on a rational thought process, regarding what we think is in the best interest of our state.

-- Janet Gibson, Lawrenceville

11/15: It was arrogance that got Barnes

Editor, the Forum:

I agree that the gerrymandering of disticts was the main reason for the governor's defeat, but it was his arrogance that allowed him to think that voters wouldn't care enough to make them vote against him. Where is Barnes and why haven't we heard from him?

-- Jim Hood, Lawrenceville

(Editor's Note: Jim. You now know that Barnes has been on vacation in the Carribbean--eeb)

11/15: Most of the electorate not as stupid as politicians think

Editor, the Forum:

Seldom does a voice of clear-eyed reason get heard in all the controversy surrounding a political upset. You were right on in blaming the Democratic loss primarily on the recent reapportionment. This was the travesty that incensed most Georgia voters. Most of us are not as stupid as many politicians think. Thanks for setting them straight.

-- Mary Louise Stark. Lawrenceville

11/15: For many, it was simply, "The party, stupid!"

Editor, the Forum:

I only wish that you are right about the flag issue ... but I think you underestimate the numbers (by a wide margin!) of those who may have seen the flag as their litmus test. If in fact we get a referendum I think at best the vote will be close ... and at worse ... well I'd rather not go there!

And then you think that a large number of the populace actually chose their vote selection for governor on the basis of the reapportionment ... pretty cerebral thinking for a general voter turnout. I don't think the masses got out of bed and took off to the polls with the reapportionment issue driving them ... ... my guess is it was much more simple, and with apologies to many ... it goes like this " it's the PARTY ... stupid" .. was more like it.

-- Ed Thayer, Berkeley Lake


SPECIAL NOTICE:
11/15: AGCO Corp. wins Recycler of the Year

AGCO Corporation of Duluth is the 2002 Gwinnett Recycler of the Year, Gwinnett Clean and Beautiful says. The announcement comes as the nation celebrates America Recycles Day on November 15.

The award will be presented at the Gwinnett Clean & Beautiful Annual Legacy Dinner on January 10, 2003.

AGCO Facilities Manager Robert Hume says AGCO's recycling program is simple, yet effective. "It is totally employee-run - the employees wanted it so they started it," he says. "The money made from the recyclables helps buy coffee for the employee break rooms, and the janitors like it because they have less trash to take out to the dumpsters."


THOUGHT OF THE DAY
Who really is running the country

"Too bad the only people who know how to run the country are busy driving cabs and cutting hair."

-- Comedian George Burns.
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Number 2.64, Nov. 15, 2002

TODAY'S ISSUE: A Democrat Recounts Advances of His Party
ELLIOTT BRACK: Two Party System Plus Whatís Out and In
FEEDBACK:
Hornets' Nets Abuzz from the Recent Election
SPECIAL NOTE: Winner of C&B Award for 2002
TODAY'S QUOTE:
Ideas from Persons Who Have Every Answer

  THE WINNER. Republican Sonny Perdue is sitting atop politics in Georgia today. For a starting list of who and what's out and in, see Elliott Brack's thoughts today.

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2/7: Rolling stores and the country

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3/11: Jim Carsten on threats to companies

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3/4: Jo Ann Pinder remembers Mr. Rogers

2/28: Ross Willis on flag solution
2/25: Emory Morsberger on Highway 78
2/21: Dinah Adkins on Norcross incubator
2/18: Conrad Gelot on walking under Lake
2/14: Elisa Kadish on new library look
2/11: Brett Harrell on Snellville sales tax
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