EARLY HOURS: Some establishments in Gwinnett are open until 5 a.m. Ever wonder what all goes on at such places during these early morning hours? To read more about places open at these wee hours, read Elliott Brack's perspective today, which discusses one of GwinnettForum's Continuing Objectives for Gwinnett.

Issue 12.83 | Tuesday, Feb. 12, 2013

TODAY'S FOCUS
:: Letters between voter, congressman

ELLIOTT BRACK'S PERSPECTIVE
:: What happens at 2 a.m. to 5 a.m.?

FEEDBACK
:: About Andrews, bulldog

UPCOMING
:: P'tree Crnrs workshop, Feb. 14

NOTABLE
:: Credit union name change, Waddell

ALSO INSIDE

IN THE SPOTLIGHT
:: Primerica, Inc.

RECOMMENDED
:: To Darkness and to Death

GEORGIA TIDBIT
:: Atlanta Compromise

LAGNIAPPE
:: Not Stone Mountain

GWINNETT CALENDAR
:: Lots of events on tap

TODAY'S QUOTE
:: How to stay in office in Louisiana

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TODAY'S FOCUS
Norcross woman, Rep. Woodall exchange letters and views
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(Editor's Note: Below is an exchange between Norcross resident Kathleen Allen and Seventh District Congressman Rob Woodall after a January 24 Town Meeting. -- eeb)

NORCROSS, Ga., Feb. 12, 2013 -- To Rep. Woodall:

I'm the lady who attended your Town Hall meeting last night (January 24) and stood up to complain about the email responses I get from your office. After three minutes, I was booed and yelled at to sit down and shut up. At that point, you started to reply, amidst the hissing, so I interjected my last line, which was just, "Fix your correspondence problem, let us know you heard and understood us, not necessarily that you agree with us!"

After I sat down and you finished your response to me, you let several others talk, AT LENGTH, and none where booed "off stage," though many displayed what can charitably be described as delusional, if not paranoid, ideas about President Obama and all Democrats in general.

You ended the evening by acknowledging that America doesn't know who it wants to be right now, going on to list opposing philosophies of a few major issues facing voters, Congress and the President. What I found disheartening is that, while personally polite in your response to my complaints about your office and yourself as my Representative, you lacked even the basic Southern gentlemanliness to tell your older male audience to "let the lady speak her peace."

If Georgia has so gerrymandered its districts that any heart-still-beating Republican will always win in the Seventh District, until perhaps the next Census makes it geographically impossible to squeeze out all Democratic-inclined voters, then we need you, Rep. Rob Woodall to be a better, braver U.S. representative.

You need to appeal to the better nature of those who vote for you instead of cowing to their baser instincts. You need to allow, and make your audiences allow, complainers and dissenters to speak for as long as you let conspiracy theorists have the floor. As I said last night, you may never rise to the caliber of Leon Panetta, and I recognize you may not want to emulate the man who once worked for Richard Nixon and then left the Republican party altogether, but you can certainly learn from Panetta's skills at listening well and being brave in his words and actions. Democracy functions better with audible courage, not silence and cowardice.

Be brave, be better, be well!

-- Kathleen Allen

P.S. Three different people came up to me afterwards to thank me for speaking up about a problem they too have experienced with your emails, so the problem appears not to be isolated.

(Here is the response that Ms. Allen got from the Congressman. -eeb)

Dear Ms. Allen:

Thank you for taking the time to attend my Town Hall Meeting on January 24 at the Gwinnett Justice and Administration Center. As you know, our Republic can only function in the manner that our Founding Fathers envisioned when concerned citizens are actively involved in keeping our government accountable.

The discussions that we had about our nation's pressing issues and my recent votes on your behalf are critical to directing the future of this nation. As we debate spending, debt, the economy, and the multitude of other issues facing our country, I ask for your continued participation, knowledge, experience, and passion.

I know how hard it can be to attend a town hall meeting, and I am grateful for your effort. Please know that you can find me anytime on the web at http://woodall.house.gov or with email at woodall@mail.house.gov.

Thank you again for your participation. I am honored to serve you.

-- Sincerely, Rob Woodall, member of Congress

ELLIOTT BRACK'S PERSPECTIVE
Investigate, regulate activity at bars in early morning hours
By ELLIOTT BRACK
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(Editor's Note: This is a reprint from a column in 2009. We run this again since it is one element in our List of Continuing Objectives for Gwinnett County.-eeb)

FEB. 12, 2013 -- Consider, if you will, what sort of activity goes on in Gwinnett between the hours of 2 a.m. and 5 a.m.

Brack

How about this description: "Not much good!"

Some law-abiding citizens may get home from work routinely at 2 a.m. or 3 a.m. (We feel for them.) We know some early-birds who arise at 5 a.m. We suppose they are just built that way.

Yet there are others among us who are still not in bed by 2 a.m., and in fact, make it their normal routine to be out and about during these darkened hours. We find that the way the law is written in Gwinnett, many establishments that serve alcoholic beverages are staying open well past the deadline for halting the sale of alcoholic beverages. One such outlet, pictured above, advertises as staying open until 5 a.m.

Gwinnett ordinances read that if the establishment serves alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, they can only serve between the hours of 9 a.m. until 1:55 a.m. Monday through Saturday. On Sundays, they may serve from 12:30 p.m. until midnight, but only at places which derive at least 50 percent of their annual gross sales from prepared food or from overnight lodging.

* * * * *

Now let's go into this further.

If these establishments (some may be known in the vernacular as "bars," or even by other terms, such as "joints") have to halt sales at 1:55 a.m. at the latest, what happens from then until 5 a.m.?

Of course, we suppose a person could order another drink at 1:50 a.m., or two or three, and sit around and consume those (maybe warm) drinks well past 1:55 a.m. Perhaps some sit there and drink until 5 a.m. (Code Section 6-93.)

Far more possible, we suspect, is that the bulk of heated discussion, arguments and perhaps fights and gun shots, take place between 2 a.m. and 5 a.m. than at other times. And there is no telling what else those in attendance at such joints will get into after the technical end of serving time. We would be more literal in suggesting that what goes on at these late hours could not, in many ways, be considered "pretty" or "wholesome" or even "nice." You perhaps can imagine some such shenanigans. You could also probably correlate unusual activities during these hours with calls to the police to come to these establishments.

All this, you understand, without even mentioning other possibilities, such as activities with drugs, taking place during this time slot.

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Yes, we would like to see change:

• Requiring all places serving alcoholic beverages to completely close by 3 a.m. at the latest.
  
  
• Better still, move the time up by an hour for the "last call" of drinks, say until 12:55 a.m., with closing by 2 a.m.
  
  
• Far closer regulation of these establishments.

Gwinnett is not a good-time convention county. We see no reason for our county, one where most people like to say that they believe in "family values," to routinely allow long, after-midnight activity in places serving alcoholic beverages.

Governments have long used the tool of regulation for establishments serving alcoholic beverages. We feel Gwinnett needs to get tougher in this area. The county commission is the authority in these matters. It should investigate just what goes on between 2-5 a.m. at these places.

SPOTLIGHT
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FEEDBACK
Feels legacy of Margaret Parsons Andrews will continue

Editor, the Forum:

Good comment by Kathy Fincher on her mother, Margaret Parsons Andrews. I know of Kathy and her husband, Jef. What comes to mind is legacy building. I think that we all would like our good influence to continue after we pass on to glory.

From what I have observed in this wonderful family, the apple hasn't fallen far from the tree. And it's my good estimation that Mrs. Andrews's ways shall extend on for many generations through her surviving loved ones and friends.

-- Roy Holman, Snellville.

Would hate to have to feed that bulldog!

Editor, the Forum:

"Holy canine Batman...that is one big bulldog!" of Kelly Herndon's shown in the February 8 edition of the Forum. Yes I am so glad I don't have to supply the groceries for Dozer. And thanks so much for sharing the photo and clearing up the mystery photo for us.

Also great idea for the Postal Service to cut Tuesday deliveries...Perhaps Robert Hanson should share some other ideas; I like the way he thinks!

-- Charles Blair, Lawrenceville

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UPCOMING
Peachtree Corners seeks input Feb. 21 on plan

The City of Peachtree Corners is beginning the process of developing a comprehensive plan to set the vision for the city in the next 20 years. This plan will include a land development component, which will determine how different parts of the city will be redeveloped.

A city wide meeting on the plan will be held February 21 at 7 p.m. at the City Hall, 147 Technology Parkway. The city seeks to get people to get involved in the planning process. The City has contracted with a local engineering firm, Pond, to lead this process.

Make sure to check out the community survey and the plan's website to stay involved and informed throughout the 10-month planning process.

Romance, chef specials, carriage rides Feb. 14 in Norcross

Romance is on the calendar in downtown Norcross on February 14 from 6:30 p.m. until 8:30 p.m.. Singles, couples and groups of friends can enjoy the evening, with local restaurants offering walk-up wine tastings and chef specials (reservations are recommended).

Heart Throb will be playing at Lionheart Theatre. This is a collection of short pieces about the struggle to find romantic love.

Along the historic shopping district on South Peachtree, there are free carriage rides and a kissing booth. Bella Vita Gallery is offering free roses with a discounted photo for your dating website or your honey's desk. The city judge will renew your vows, or check out the singles' scene inside Iron Horse Tavern.

Even the downtown chiropractor is getting into the spirit, handing out chocolate covered strawberries.

It promises to be a fun evening for singles, a perfect first date, or a fabulous reason to celebrate years of being in love. Downtown Norcross' historic charm invites romance.

• For more information, visit www.aplacetoimagine.com.
  

NOTABLE
Credit union changes name to Peach State Federal Credit Union

Gwinnett Federal Credit Union is entering its 52nd year of service with a new name, Peach State Federal Credit Union, to better reflect its membership base and footprint in Georgia.

This new name is a testament to the credit union's growth over the last 20 years as it has expanded from Gwinnett into six other counties, including Barrow, Clarke, DeKalb, Jackson, Oconee and Walton. According to Peach State's President/CEO, Marshall Boutwell, "We now serve more than 41,000 members, 26,000 of whom live outside Gwinnett County. The name Peach State not only acknowledges our entire membership base, but it also allows for future growth without geographic constraints."

One thing that will not change is the credit union's commitment to its members and the support it provides to school systems. "Members can expect the same friendly, personal service, the same value and the same dedication to excellence," said Boutwell. "Our underlying dedication to education is part of our foundation. We will continue to support education in our service areas through sponsorship of the Teacher of the Year awards, and awarding student and career advancement scholarships because we believe this tradition should be maintained."

Peach State is a $231 million credit union that operates as a not-for-profit financial cooperative. The credit union's mission is to provide quality financial services that meet the needs and exceed the expectations of its member-owners. For more information, visit www.peachstatefcu.org.

Waddell is Gwinnett Tech Perkins Award winner

Dr. Penny Joyner Waddell, speech program director at Gwinnett Technical College, has been honored with the college's 2013 Rick Perkins Award of Excellence in Technical Education.

Waddell

The Rick Perkins Award of Excellence in Technical Instruction honors technical education's most outstanding instructors. The award has been an ongoing statewide program since 1991. The recipients are technical college instructors who make significant contributions to technical education through innovation and leadership in their fields.

Dr. Waddell has been with Gwinnett Tech since 2002. She holds a bachelor's degree in speech education from Wesleyan College, a Master of Education in instructional technology from Troy State University, and a Doctor of Education in instructional leadership higher education from Argosy University. Before coming to Gwinnett Tech, Waddell served as a speech instructor at Georgia Perimeter College.

She says: "I have the opportunity to motivate, inspire and energize adults who want to mold themselves into someone better than the person they were when they first walked into my classroom. Teaching students who are ready to learn is a dream come true."

In addition to her role as a program director and instructor, she is also a volunteer tutor in the college's Learning Success Center. She is active in her community with the First Baptist Church of Grayson, the Gavel Club at George Walton Academy, St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital, Georgia Baptist Children's Home, and the Gwinnett County Battered Women's Shelter.

Also nominated for Gwinnett Tech's Rick Perkins Award were:

• James Masters, Dental Laboratory Technology;
  
• Gary Carter, Computer Science;
  
• Russ Pomrenke, Criminal Justice;
  
• Aaron Poulsen, Horticulture;
  
• Tiffany Parks, English;
  
• Mark Newton, Hotel, Restaurant and Tourism Management;
  
• Umber Hanief, Learning Support;
  
• Renee Baca, Nursing; and
• Lea Anna Harding, Dental Assisting.

Gwinnett Tech offers more than 50 degree, diploma and certificate options that can be completed in two years or less. For more information, visit www.GwinnettTech.edu or call 770-962-7580.

RECOMMENDED
To Darkness and to Death
By Julia Spencer-Fleming

"This entire book takes place on one cold November day in the Adirondack Mountains of New York. The local rescue team is called out to look for a young woman reported missing. Clare Fergusson, ex-Army pilot turned Episcopal priest, is on the team. An Asian company is buying a portion of the woodlands and planning to restore it to its natural state, thereby putting local loggers and mills out of business. Emotions are running high. People are feeling desperate. This book reads like a normal novel until about halfway through when two or three things happen at once. It gets most interesting very quickly and it doesn't let up. This story pulls you into the characters - their problems, their flawed thinking and their fears. Please don't read the book jacket. It gives too much away. This book is part of a really good series, but it can stand alone."

-- Susan McBrayer, Sugar Hill

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GEORGIA ENCYCLOPEDIA
"Compromise" speech not accepted by all black leaders
Part 2 of 2

Booker T. Washington's "Atlanta Compromise" speech was greeted by thunderous applause and a standing ovation. Clark Howell, editor of the Atlanta Constitution, moved forward to the speaker's platform and proclaimed the speech to be "the beginning of a moral revolution in America." Washington's words, telegraphed to every major newspaper in the country, were greeted enthusiastically by whites-both northern and southern-and by most African American leaders.

But Washington, at left, had his critics, none more stringent than another leading black educator and scholar of his day -- W. E. B. Du Bois. Du Bois, a native of Great Barrington, Mass., was educated at Fisk University Harvard University, and the University of Berlin in Germany. In 1897 he accepted an appointment to the faculty of Atlanta University (later Clark Atlanta University) and moved to Atlanta. Although Du Bois recognized Washington's speech as important, he soon came to see Washington's ideas of gradualism for civil rights as acquiescence to many southerners who wanted to maintain the inferior status of blacks. In Du Bois's view, "Mr. Washington represents in Negro thought the old attitude of adjustment and submission. ... [His] programme practically accepts the alleged inferiority of the Negro races."

Du Bois's upbringing in New England and his exposure to liberal democratic views elicited a very different response to the Negro problem. He believed that blacks should launch legal and scholarly attacks on racism and discrimination without hesitation, and he called for education of the most talented blacks to lead this struggle. The "talented tenth," he believed, should represent the antithesis of gradualism and should seek to free blacks in the present.

The Atlanta Compromise represented Booker T. Washington's strategy for addressing the Negro problem and has long served as the basis for contrasting Washington's views with those of Du Bois. Even today, scholars and educators debate the utility of Washington's educational ideas. Most agree that to understand Washington's speech, it is necessary to place his thinking within its historical context. Despite the continued debates over the speech and the criticisms of Washington by many black progressive thinkers, his address continues to be one of the most important speeches in African American letters.

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TODAY'S QUOTE
Simplified methods of staying in office in Louisiana

"Don't write anything you can phone. Don't phone anything you can talk. Don't talk anything you can whisper. Don't whisper anything you can smile. Don't smile anything you can nod. Don't nod anything you can wink."

-- Longtime Louisiana politicians and Gov. Earl Long (1895-1960), via Lowell Douglas, Atlanta.

GREAT GIFT
Looking for that perfect, unique gift?

Consider a book about Gwinnett history.

Previously out of print, Elliott Brack's 850-page history, "Gwinnett: A Little Above Atlanta," is now available again. Since its original publication, the book was declared the winner of the 2010 Award of Excellence for documenting Georgia history by the Georgia Historical Records Advisory Board. It is also the winner of the Gwinnett Historical Society's Whitworth-Flanigan Award for 2011 for preserving the history of Gwinnett County.

The book includes 143 demographic and historic tables, with more than 4,000 names in the index, and 10,000 names in the appendix.Two versions of the book are available. The hardback edition is priced at $75, while a softback edition is $40. Books are available at:

• Atlanta History Center, Atlanta
• Books for Less, Buford
  
• Gwinnett Historical Society, Lawrenceville
  
• Vargas and Harbin Gallery, Norcross

You can also order books through the Internet. To do that, go to www.elliottbrack.com to place your order. For mail orders, there is a $5 shipping and handling fee. Purchases are also subject to the 6 percent Georgia sales tax.

Or call me (Elliott Brack) at 770 840 1003 and tell me how to dedicate a book to a friend (or to you) as he adds his signature!

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GWINNETT CALENDAR

Mind/Body Health Fair: 10 a.m. to 2 p.m., Feb. 16, Norcross High. Presented by the Georgia Psychological Association, the Fair is free and is a collaborative venture between Norcross High School and GPA and is sponsored, in part, by the City of Norcross and Trader Joe's. More: www.gapsychology.org/events or call (404) 634-6272.

Event for Quilters: 10 a.m., Feb. 19, Cannon United Methodist Church, 2424 Webb Gin House Road, Snellville. Meet Marie Bostwick, a quilter who is author of the Cobbled Court Quilt novels. The event is put on by the Gwinnett County Public Library and the Gwinnett Quilter's Guild. There is a $5 charge to attend for non-members of the Guild. For more information, visit www.gwinnettpl.org.

Breakfast Networking of Buford Business Association: 8:30 a.m., Feb. 19, Springhill Suites, 3250 Buford Drive (across from Mall of Georgia).

Open Meetings and Records Workshop: 7 p.m., Feb. 19, Holy Martyrs of Vietnam Catholic Church, 4545 Timmers Way, Norcross. Speaking will be Stefan Ritter, senior assistant attorney general. The event is free. Details: 678-632-3255.

Legislative Update at the Sierra Club meeting: 7 p.m., Feb. 21, Berkmar High. Speaking will be Lobbyists Mark Woodall and Neill Herring, updating about environmental measures being considered by the General Assembly. For more information, contact Dan Friedman.

Meet the Author Series: 7:15 p.m., Feb. 21, Norcross Cultural Arts Center, 10 College Street. Featured will be bestselling author Brandon Sanderson and Robert Jordan's widow and long-time editor Harriet McDougal. They will be celebrating the conclusion of Robert Jordan's epic fantasy series, The Wheel of Time. They will discuss and sign the new book, A Memory of Light. For more information about library events, visit www.gwinnettpl.org, or call (770) 978-5154

Gun Violence Reduction program: 7:30 p.m., Feb. 21, Northwest Unitarian Universalist Congregation, 1025 Mount Vernon Highway, Sandy Springs. Join Alice Johnson, Gun Safety Georgia; Kathryn Grant, The Campaign to Keep Guns Off Campus; attorney Michael Manely; and the Rev. Terry Davis, Northwest Unitarian Universalist Congregation for a discussion on strategies for "Gun Violence Reduction, a discussion on where we go and what we do post-Sandy Hook."

Caregiver's Conference: 9:30 a.m. to 2 p.m., Feb. 23, First United Methodist Church of Lawrenceville, 395 West Crogan Street. Guest speaker will be Maria Greene, a consultant with the National Association of States United for Aging and Disabilities. Cost, including breakfast and lunch, is $10. This is a program from the Gwinnett Coalition of Health and Human Services supported by Gwinnett Neighborhood Leadership and Friends of Gwinnett County Senior Services. For more information, call 678 964 4838.

(NEW) Working on Purpose is the title of a talk in the GLOW series at the 1818 Club on Sugarloaf Parkway on March 1 at 7:15 a.m. Speaker will be Lori Billingsley, vice president of Community Relations for Coca-Cola Company. For more details, send email here.

"Doors and Portals" is the title of the new exhibit at the Kudzu Art Zone, 116 Carlyle Street in Norcross. Juried art work in a variety of styles and mediums will be on display. The gallery is open Friday and Saturday 11 a.m. until 4 p.m. The current exhibit continues through March 23.

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FOCUS ARCHIVES

4/19: Olson: Gwinnett Symphony 4/12: C. Brack: Barnes Museum 4/9: Havens: Soccer concerns 4/5: Byrne: April 26 banquet 4/2: Hall: PGA tourney here soon 3/29: Duke: STEM education 3/26: Angstadt: Manatee swimming 3/22: Mowrey: Safer neighborhoods 3/19: Olson: Four Hudgens finalists 3/15: Foreman: Technology impact 3/12: Nelems: Community branding 3/8: Cheeley: Grandview development 3/5: Butler: Surprise find in woods 3/1: Hassel: Two garden trees 2/26: Miller: Arena's 10th birthday 2/22: Frazier: Gwinnett vs. DeKalb 2/19: Hall: Pro golf back in April 2/15: Franzen: Madagascar 2/12: Allen, Woodall letters 2/8: Olson: 2 Feb. 17 concerts 2/5: Paul: Write your own book 2/1: Erbele: Winning vineyard 1/29: South: Gwinnett's judges 1/25: Calmes: Ballet semifinals 1/22: Sawyer: State of Gwinnett 1/18: Belfoure: Winton Machine 1/15: Ashley: Disabling phone GPS 1/11: Olson: Black artists featured 1/8: Malone: Gun control 1/4: Nelems: Unintended COMMENTARY INDEX

CONTINUING OBJECTIVES FOR GWINNETT

Gwinnett Forum publisher Elliott Brack suggests that Gwinnett County needs a long-range list of continuing objectives for improving the county. Read more.

• Development of a two-party system for local offices
• Transparent operations to restore faith in Gwinnett's County Commission
• Moving statewide non-partisan judge election runoffs to the General Election
• Light rail for Gwinnett from Doraville MARTA station to Gwinnett Arena
• Extension of Gwinnett Place CID area to include Arena and Discovery Mills Mall
• Banning of tobacco in all Gwinnett parks
• Making Briscoe Field a commercial airport for jet-age travel
• Approval of General Government SPLOST in 2013
• More diverse candidates for political offices and appointment to local boards
• Physical move of former St. Gerard's Catholic Church in Buffalo, N.Y., to Norcross
• Creative efforts to support the arts in Gwinnett
• Advancement and expansion of city and Gwinnett historical societies
• Stronger regulation of late-night establishments with alcoholic licenses
  

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