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FEEDBACK
7/30:
Mailbag full, so here are thoughts
of five writers to Feedback today

(JULY 30, 2002 - - Editor's Note: With a tremendous amount of feedback recently, we thought we would feature letters this week.-eeb)

Editor, the Forum:

Think about ALL the major names change when crossing Lawrenceville Highway! Jimmy Carter Boulevard becomes Mountain Industrial Boulevard; Indian Trail to Killian Hill; Beaver Ruin to Arcado Road. Pleasant Hill to Lester road, etc. Bet you don't know why Arcado is so named....

- - Don Printz, Tucker

Editor's note: Dear Doctor Printz: Can't let this one go by without replying.. Arcado was named when Paul Dover, O.D. Cain and Weldon B. Archer were our three county commissioners, back in 1949. They used the first two letters of their last names, giving us AR-CA-DO. ---eeb

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Editor, the Forum:

The book "Brunelleschi's Dome," by Ross King, sounds interesting. I will definitely get it.

Let me recommend Ken Follett's Pillars of the Earth? It is a novel, centered around building a small cathedral in England during the same period. The son of the original builder went to Paris (?) and saw what they were doing there, went back home and changed the structure to include a dome, if I remember right. A long, but great read if you haven't already read it.

- - Phylecia Wilson, Snellville

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Editor, the Forum:

Let's hope that people will know who they are going to vote for before they are standing before the new voting machine. If they don't, that could be compounded with how to operate the new voting machine.

- - Kathy Gestar, Snellville

Editor's note: Kathy: Gwinnett gets the new computer voting machines not for the primary, but for the General Election. Each Gwinnett precinct will have a demo model of the new election computer during the primary. Check it out. Meanwhile, we'll have a report on the new machines prior to the November voting.--eeb

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Editor, the Forum:

Randy Yelverton doesn't get it (re: the Griggs lady.) People like him never will. He hasn't "been there."

You know that I have "been there," very involved in the Gwinnett community during the 70's and 80's. (Rotary, Clean and Beautiful and a pile of other civic activities, many with direct contact with all County Commissioners).

I also appreciated your attention to the road 'Road Name Changing." To add even more to the confusion, just try to find a street address!!!! Most commercial properties are not identified with a street number, even though it is required by County ordinance.

How do the emergency people find anything in a commercial area? All the owners seem to think that we know who all the tenants are based on the name of the property. Where are our County enforcement marshals?

- - E. F. Stuart, Norcross

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(Editor's note: A recent query about the descendents of the family of Norcross produced this result.-eeb)

Editor, the Forum:

Sorry, old soul, but there could be as many as 20,000,000 plus descendants alive today of old George Norcross from Ribchester, England, in 1850, and I am only one of them.

Now my cousin Joe Norcross, who lives in Columbus, S.C, has been (to Norcross) and according to one of his encounters with a local Genealogist of repute, "they all come from Ribchester, all them Norcross's."

If anyone ever needs information on Norcross's, I have a ton and am researching them for my own family tree. I know of at least two other complete trees available and I can point to many others looking for their place in the family. Incidentally, all North American Norcross's come from either Jeremiah (Massachusetts Bay Colony, 1632) or John (William Penn's Colony, 1699), both sons of Thomas, the Haberdasher of London, England. Otis is descended from Jeremiah, as am I.

- - Philip Norcross Gross, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada (philipgross@rogers.com)

7/26: Disappointed, and questions about integrity

Editor, the Forum:

I was highly disappointed by your editorial (of July 23). Because you did not offer any indication as to what issues Ms. Neaton-Griggs was opposing, your editorial basically undercut the idea of elected official having integrity. You chastised her for being unrealistic by making a stand against the other commissioners. It seems you would rather her go along with the other commissioners even if she disagrees with the issue in question.

Do we elect officials just so that they can get legislation passed, regardless of their moral beliefs? I personally elect an official not for pragmatic reasons, but because I hope they will legislate with integrity. Because you do not tell us what Ms. Neaton-Griggs opposed, your editorial basically says that elected officials should leave their integrity at the door in the name of progress. What kind of progress is it that sacrifices integrity in the name of teamwork?

In conclusion, I can only think back to what all our elementary school teachers used to tell us. "If all your friends jumped off a cliff, would you do it to?" Please tell us the full story.

- - Randy Yelverton, Duluth

EDITOR'S RESPONSE

What follows is the editor's response to the letter:

I figured some people would take this tack, because I did not point out a particular instance. Yet I wanted to keep it away from issues, and talk about the idea of getting real progress in your area AFTER you were elected.

Granted, integrity is perhaps the most important element in a public official. Yet there also enters the idea of effectiveness. After election is when the "trading" goes on, the scratching of each other's back if you really want to get something done. Ms. Neaton-Griggs refuses, and as a result, her district (and the county) suffers. That's another look at what integrity means in a commissioner, whether they can deliver what they promised. And it takes teamwork to do it.

--eeb


7/23: Wants higher level of leadership from GOP

Editor, the Forum:

Your July 19 GwinnettForum was a nice mix of topics making for interesting reading and a thought-provoking agenda for your readers.

Regarding the Northern Arc, it will happen. To many involved power brokers coupled with an obscene amount of money will not "railroad" this debatable transportation solution for Georgia.

With respect to Linder and Barr, I am not pleased with how Mr. Barr has managed the interests of Georgians in the water negotiations. That is a personal feeling after a bit of investigation. From a Gwinnettian's perspective along with the current pulse of those I have chatted with on this race, a number of voters are still upset about Bob bailing on the Republican party in a district that he could managed victory if had he been up for the challenge.

I am curious whether Ralph (Reed) had any input on this decision as the party leader. Certainly, the 11th district is the resource battles. I believe John Linder will be victorious but by a slim margin (say, 4 percent).

I do not claim to understand all of the closet politics that shape decisions of this nature, but there is one thing that is crystal clear to me at this point. The Republican party could use a much higher level of dynamic leadership that would use purposeful persuasion and penetrating influence directed towards issues that clearly fall in the best interests of the party.

I believe this was a chord played during Mr. Reed's campaign rhetoric. I remember well since I was at all of the party conventions last year.

- - Tony Arakawa, Berkeley Lake


7/23: With this thinking, Titanic captain would be promoted

Editor, the Forum:

Let me get this straight - - we promote the fellow in charge of Ruby Ridge and put him in charge of airport security. He inspects 90-year-old ladies from Des Moines, so now we replace him with Admiral Loy, who has been responsible for stopping drug smuggling for the last few years?

What a job he did with dope!! There is none of it around so I can see why they thought he could stop terrorists. .

All this takes you breath away. If the Titanic had been owned by the USA, with this thinking, I guess we would have made the Captain an Admiral.

- - Dean Booth, Atlanta

7/19: Daytona YMCA held corporate challenge

Editor, the Forum:

At the Daytona Beach YMCA this year we completed a Corporate Challenge with area businesses. We had 19 join in on the festivities. It was a great program.

We did it over a three-week time frame. I bet you Gwinnett guys have a lot of success. Ours was a little cheaper, but that fits with our area. We charged $150 per event per team. Businesses could enter as many teams as they wish. Good luck.

- - Randy Brown, former Gwinnettian

7/19: United Way seeks loaned executives for campaign

Editor, the Forum:

United Way in Gwinnett County is interviewing for loaned executive positions. Loaned Executives assist with running the annual workplace campaigns. The program begins August 5 and concludes in early December.

Specifically, candidates will need to demonstrate strong skills in public speaking, working with people, able to manage multiple tasks, highly motivated, and management experience. It is a great opportunity to work with both the non-profit and corporate community. If you are interested please contact me, Brent Pieper, Associate Area Director-Campaign, at bpieper@unitedwayatl.org.

- - Brent Pieper

7/16: Business activity creates new terms

Editor, the Forum:

We must at least laugh some. Here are new definitions of time-honored accounting practices, which we have learned from the last few weeks business activity.

  • GAAP = generally avoided accounting practices.
  • FRS = fantasy reporting standards.
  • Ebitda = earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and auditors.
  • Ebit = earnings before irregularities and tampering.
  • NAV = normal Andersen valuation.
  • CEO = Chief Embezzlement Officer.
  • CFO = Corporate Fraud Officer.
  • P/E = parole entitlement.
  • EPS = eventual prison sentence.

- - Dean Booth, Atlanta

7/12: Feels county should provide area for extreme sports

Editor, the Forum:

Please consider helping me with a project I have undertaken. As a citizen of Gwinnett, I feel that our parks need to have an extreme sport section. I sent an email below to many officials who may be able to help, but I was hoping you would circulate it to your readers, in order for me to gain more support in this quest. Thank you for your time.

-- Zack Parsons, Lawrenceville

(E-mail follows):

Hello,

I am writing to ask for your help in preserving a sport. My name is Zack Parsons, I am 15 years old, a student at Collins Hill High and I am one of many skateboarders in Gwinnett County. I am one of the many skateboarders, along with many other extreme sportists, who would like you to help us.

Here is our problem: while there are plenty of football, baseball, softball, and even roller hockey fields, Gwinnett seems to be lacking in a public skatepark of any sorts, except at Pinckneyville. There is also another at Rome, Ga.

I myself live in Lawrenceville and frequent Collins Hill Park. The lack of spots to skate is saddening. I also find that you cannot skate anywhere outdoors in Gwinnett without running into signs telling you not to skateboard. Even the park has one.

I propose that the county furnish a public outdoor skate park at most of their parks, since the parks really are for the public. As of now, most parks do not allow you to skate and even if you find a spot to skate. People tell you not to skate there.

I am not wanting a humongous skate park that takes up all of a park. All I request is a small place for extreme sportists to enjoy, so they too can feel as they are a part of the public, the very same public the parks are built for.

-- Zack Parsons, Lawrenceville

(Editor's note: Mr. Parsons can be reached at indietro_uomo@hotmail.com.)

7/9: Says thank you to Jeanne Spears

Editor, the Forum:

Good to see Jeanne Spears getting notation in her home county as volunteer of the year for the Atlanta Chapter of the American Red Cross. That is a huge recognition for someone who goes and goes all over the country as a volunteer.

Since I know Jeanne, I can say that she would go without the recognition----that's which its important that we say "thank you" to those who give so liberally to people in need.

Thank you, Jeanne !!

- - Charles Summerour, Member, Advisory Board of the Gwinnett Service Center, American Red Cross

7/5: Red Cross volunteer of the year title goes to
Gwinnett Service Center member

Jeanne Spears, a four year volunteer with the Gwinnett Red Cross Service Center in Lawrenceville, has been named as the Metropolitan Atlanta Chapter's Volunteer of the Year. Spears was presented her award by David McLaughlin, chairman of the Board of Governors of the National Red Cross, at the J.W. Marriott Hotel in Atlanta.

The Volunteer of the Year Award is the highest recognition of service presented by the local Red Cross. It is intended to spotlight volunteer who has contributed in an extraordinary way.

Spears, a retired registered nurse, is involved in almost every phase of the Gwinnett center's operation. She has served as a member and captain of the Disaster Action Team providing immediate aid to local disaster victims. She is a CPR/First Aid/AED and disaster services instructor and also teaches Community Disaster Education classes.

She serves as chairman of the service center's Disaster Health Services committee and is a member of the aviation response team. Spears has responded to numerous local disasters and has served on four national level missions including New York City 9-11 attacks, where she was one of the first out-of-state Red Cross responders to arrive.

The award nomination described her New York service: "After witnessing first hand the scope of the tragedy, she offered to extend her assignment from three to four weeks. Jeanne went from hospital to hospital visiting patients and families to give them the support they needed. She would work all day and continue to assist the grieving families into the evening if needed."

The nomination continued, "Jeanne exemplifies the Red Cross motto, 'Together, we can save a life,' and she is highly respected by both paid and volunteer staff for her knowledge and skills. She is a tireless and dedicated volunteer . . ."

7/2: Senate candidates sound off on the Pledge

Editor, the Forum:

This decision (on the Pledge of Allegiance) is ludicrous. The Pledge of Allegiance is a totally voluntary expression of patriotism, which is exactly what our country needs right now. Is "In God We Trust," on our money, unconstitutional too? I hope a higher court will strike this decision down.

-- Sen. Max Cleland.

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Editor, the Forum:

The idea that the Pledge of Allegiance could be considered unconstitutional is not only un-American, it is outrageous! I am deeply disturbed that a judge in California would actually go so far as to try to tell my grandchildren that they cannot recite the Pledge in their own schools.

-- U.S. Rep. Saxby Chambliss

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Editor, the Forum:

This (ruling) is an outrage! Of course this case will be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, and I trust that the Supreme Court will overturn what the Court of Appeals has done. If not, we need a constitutional amendment, and I for one would certainly vote for it.

- - Ga. Rep. Bob Irvin

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