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Former resident recalls Norcross back in middle 1940s
By Col. (Ret.) Clifford Jones Jr.
Special to GwinnettForum.com

(Editor's Note: The author spent several years of his youth in Norcross, the son of an Army officer who retired to his home of Norcross. The writer is a graduate of the U.S. Military Academy, and had a 32-year career in the Army, then joined private business in the Buffalo, N.Y. area. He lives in retirement at Orchard Park, N.Y.-eeb)

SEPT. 11, 2007 -- In 1944, I arrived in Norcross at the age of 11. My father, Col. Clifford Jones Sr., had retired from the Army after 41 years of service and decided to return to the home of his youth.

For our home site, he selected a vacant city block bounded by Williams, Autrey, Spike and Peachtree Streets, one block back from the railroad and a five minute walk to downtown Norcross. In my brief life, I had lived in three different cities and two military posts, but Norcross was my first taste of "country" living. Norcross village streets were mostly paved, but except for Highway 23, every other road out of town was gravel, which made a bicycle trip out to the Chattahoochee for a swim a real test of determination.

I remember those magnificent steam locomotives whistling through on the Southern's double track main line. Daily excitement was being at the station's mail transfer point when at full speed the mail car attendant would launch the incoming mail bag at the platform, and then extend the arm that would snatch the outgoing bag from its rail-side tower. (Years later, when the Bank of Norcross had become part of the C&S organization, this process would be repeated when at the day's end, the C&S helicopter would collect the day's transactions from a hoist over the bank on Peachtree Street.)

During the cotton harvest, it was fun to go to the gin and watch the process. The picked cotton would arrive in mule-drawn wagons, go through the most amazing series of whirring and clanking machines, and roll out a huge bale of cotton. That was in the days when plant foremen didn't worry much about kids roaming around rotating machinery. That's was the way we learned about things. Cotton was really King then. When the cotton was ready for picking, the Norcross school suspended classes so that the farm kids could help get the crop in.

There was about one of every kind of store: drug, feed, hardware, grocery, dry goods, general, variety -- but four gas stations. We had a serious blacksmith, an operational train station and a bank. My father was for a number of years president of the bank. His desk was immediately inside the front door, the first person a customer would see on entering. The cashier, tellers and bookkeeper were further in, behind the traditional counter … and that was the bank. And finally, the Swan, a real motion picture theatre, was opened. It showed feature films plus serials. (Editor's note: the theatre was on the first floor of what is now the Masonic Lodge.) Norcross had arrived!

I was a full time participant of the country culture of Norcross from grade 5 through 7. Out of town school, and then a career away, resulted in fewer and fewer trips home until finally there was no connection left. My last real visit was in 2000 to buy my stepmother, Mary Jones, age 99, a plot in the Norcross Cemetery. There she joined my father, my grandparents, my great grandparents and a great uncle, Hilliard Clarke Jones. (Hilliard was killed at age 10 by a stray union bullet when a firefight between union and confederate forces developed on my great grandfather's farm.)

I finally realized that Norcross had changed forever, when I bought a Saab and in reading the literature that accompanied it, discovered that the headquarters of Saab USA was….in Norcross.


Always positive, Dorsey Guthrie was native who made good
By Elliott Brack
Editor and Publisher
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SEPT. 11, 2007 -- Any time you ran across Gwinnett native Dorsey Guthrie, you knew what the answer would be when you asked him how he was doing. He'd shoot back: "Fine. Great. One hundred percent." Dorsey was that way, always optimistic, outgoing and positive.


Brack

Dorsey died last week of complications from two falls at his home in Jefferson. He was age 92; however, the last time we saw him, it was hard to figure he was that age. He was young in appearance and outlook.

For the last 22 years, he and his wife of 66 years, Emily, lived in Jefferson, where he never slowed into normal retirement, but kept his hand into land development, civic work and church activities. He was the guiding force behind the building of the Northminster Assisted Living (now Bentley Assisted Living) facility near Jefferson, one of his proudest projects. Many of his housing sub-divisions were often built around a large lake for power boats for skiing. All of these sub-divisions were enormously successful.


Guthrie

Mr. Guthrie's grew up in rural Gwinnett's Sweetwater community, the youngest of 12 children. He attended Monroe A&M, and later Georgia Evening School in Atlanta, now Georgia State. His commercial career was agriculture-related, primarily as a sales executive with Ralston-Purina for years, including many years in Nashville, Tenn.

His nephew, Millard Bowen, tells a story that exhibits Dorsey Guthrie's persistence. After interviewing for a job with Ralston-Purina, and told that there were no jobs available with Purina, Mr. Guthrie kept asking when they would hire him. Meeting the Purina executive on the street one day, he finally said: "I'm coming to work for your company. It's just a matter of time when you hire me." His first job with Purina was bagging feed, and from there, he went on up the ladder, finally emerging as a regional sales manager in Nashville, Tenn.

After transferring to Atlanta, Mr. Guthrie beginning in the late 1950s, started assembling land for farming near what is now Northwoods Country Club. The land, some 1,200 acres which he farmed with his brother, extended nearly to Interstate 85. They often had field days there, with Ralston Purina and John Deere putting on demonstrations. Part of this land was sold for Castleview Golf and Country Club, which opened in 1962, but went bankrupt soon. It was re-opened in 1963 as Northwoods Country Club, and Dorsey suggested Charlie Underwood should work there. That began a 43 year stint for Underwood in the country club business. "Dorsey gets credit for every success I ever had," says Underwood. Mr. Guthrie had originally hired him to work for Ralston Purina in Tampa, Fla.

But it was in his everyday living that Mr. Guthrie came across as most genuine, as sincere, both kind and understanding. People felt that they could talk to him on a person-to-person basis. Even when entering into contracts with him on real estate transactions, he liked the idea of handshake contracts and simplicity. His son-in-law, a lawyer, told of Dorsey's continued admonishments to him about writing those contracts: "Keep it simple. A few sentence or paragraphs. These are good people and they'll pay."

Millard Bowen asked him to sum up, in a few words, what would be important for him to share. "He thought a while, then said, Millard, tell the truth. That's all I can tell you. Everything else will work out if you tell the truth. Do that, and you don't have to worry about anything else."

Dorsey Guthrie: 1915-2007: may you rest in peace.

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Ties Iraqi war aspects with efforts of the South years ago

Editor, the Forum:

Congratulations to Georgia Public Broadcasting for their production of "Georgia's Civil War." The program was well done and held my interest while describing Georgians' personal perspectives and the politics behind the military actions. One historical point that I came away with was the desperate hope of the people in the South to hold out until the North elected the Democratic peace candidate, former commander of the Army of the Potomac, General George McClellan.

President Lincoln was under tremendous pressure to produce a significant military victory in either Richmond or Atlanta before the upcoming presidential elections. Union troops out-flanked the defending Confederates, cut the rail lines from Macon, and that was that. Lincoln had his victory and re-election, the Union was preserved, slavery was on its way out, and the matter of secession was settled for all time.

Interesting parallels exist with our present situation in Iraq. One, that our current situation in Iraq is not the first time that elections have hinged on victory. The Democratic party has been invested in defeat for the United States claiming that too many people have died, the cost in lives was not worth it, and that the war was not winnable. Second, ex-generals do not always know what they are talking about. Third, a victory in Iraq will signal that Islamic terrorism is on its way out. Lastly, a victory in Iraq will give the Iraqis an opportunity to establish a lasting peace.

Yes, too many people have died in Iraq and the bitter cost of war is why men should avoid it. Yet, the fruits of the Union victory over the secessionists that we enjoy even today have provided us with an appreciation of the cost in lives. Based upon this historical parallel it is dangerous to claim that the fruits to be yielded in Iraq will not be worth the cost.

-- Wayne Buchheit, Dacula

Dear Wayne: We suspect that not all our readers will take your conclusions without comment. I myself will refrain for the moment. -eeb


DOT to begin project to eliminate "suicide lane" on U.S. 78

Georgia DOT announces site work will start Wednesday, September 12 on the project to remove the reversible lane system and widen U.S. Highway 78 in Gwinnett County.

The projected completion date is November 30, 2009 and its cost is over $31 million. Some of the features of the project include:

  • Improved pedestrian access throughout the corridor with sidewalks on each side of U.S. 78 and benches along the corridor;
  • Internally illuminated street signs;
  • Decorative black mast arms to support traffic signals;
  • Three lanes in each direction of U.S. 78; and
  • Removal of the reversible lane system.

Throughout the project DOT has partnered with Gwinnett County, the City of Snellville and the Evermore CID. A groundbreaking ceremony will be held Thursday, September 14 at 1 p.m. on U.S.. 78 in the Mountain East Shopping Center, at 5295 U.S. 78. Featured Speakers at the ceremony will include Georgia DOT Commissioner Harold Linnenkohl, Gwinnett County Commissioner Mike Beaudreau, City of Snellville Mayor Jerry Oberholtzer and Evermore CID Chairman Ken Shiver.

County seeks input and ideas for new park near Meadowcreek

Gwinnett County Parks and Recreation will hold a public meeting to get input and suggestions to assist in the design of a new park in Gwinnett County located near the intersections of Beaver Ruin Road, Satellite Boulevard and Interstate 85. Those attending will fill out a "recreation desires" survey and have the opportunity to submit applications to serve on a steering committee to assist in the master planning of this park.

The meeting will be held on Thursday, September 27 at 7 p.m. at the Meadowcreek High School Theater, 4455 Steve Reynolds Blvd. in Norcross.

A continuing drive behind the vision of GCPR is citizen involvement and participation in all areas of park planning. GCPR is working to offer a balanced and variety of programs at different locations in its inventory of 35 open parks, with more than a dozen planned to open over the next four years.

Medical Auxiliary plans $5 gift sale at Emory Eastside Hospital

A special sale of gift items from the Emory Eastside Medical Center Gift Shop is coming up.

On September 21, from 9 a.m. until 5 p.m., the Forget-Me-Not Gift shop, sponsored by Emory Eastside Medical Center Auxiliary Volunteers, will be having a $5 jewelry sale. It will be in the lobby of the visitor entrance . Shop for the holidays, birthdays, or any special occasion . Proceeds will go to support local charities such as Gwinnett Community Clinic. For more information, please call the Auxiliary Volunteer Office, 770-736-2463. The hospital is at 1700 Medical Way, Snellville.

Gwinnettians face property tax deadline of September 15

Gwinnett County property tax bills, mailed in July, included payment coupons and reply envelopes for two installment payments. The first installment of Gwinnett County tax bills is due Sept. 15, 2007. The bills, mailed in July, have a second installment amount deadline of Nov. 15.

Gwinnett taxpayers may make their property tax payments in person at two Tax Commissioner locations - the Property Tax Customer Service Office, located in the Gwinnett Justice and Administration Center in Lawrenceville, and the Tax Commissioner's North Gwinnett Motor Vehicle tag office, located on Mall of Georgia Boulevard in Buford.

Tax payments may be made over the telephone or by credit card or e-check over the Internet (convenience fees apply for credit card transactions). For customer assistance or to make payments by telephone, contact (770) 822-8800. Customers may also e-mail tax@gwinnettcounty.com or visit the Tax Commissioner's Web site at www.GwinnettTaxCommissioner.com.


Alliance Theatre's Jacques Brel caberet play opens Sept. 26

The Alliance Theatre in Atlanta opens its Hertz Stage series with the elegant and moving sounds of Jacques Brel presented in the style of a Parisian cabaret. Jacques Brel Is Alive and Well and Living in Paris is one of the most enduring musical revues of all time and promises a night of stirring emotion and romance on the most intimate stage in Atlanta. Alliance Artistic Director Susan V. Booth will direct in a radically reconfigured Hertz Stage where guests will enjoy wine in a unique environment styled after a hot French nightspot.

Opening Night is Wednesday, Sept. 26, 2007 at 8 p.m. The Alliance production will feature cocktail tables and couches, in addition to standard seating, with multiple stage areas throughout the theatre to provide a very up-close and personal experience with the actors. Additionally, audience members will have the opportunity to purchase a bottle of "Jacques Brel" wine from the bar, which is a part of the set, to drink at their table.

Performances are Tuesday through Friday at 8 p.m., Saturday at 2:30 p.m. and 8 p.m., and Sunday at 2:30 p.m. and 7:30 p.m., Sept. 21 - Oct. 28 on the Alliance Stage. The Sunday, Oct. 14 show at 2:30 p.m. will be Audio Described.

Tickets are $30 and $35 and are available at the Woodruff Arts Center Box Office by calling 404.733.5000 or online at www.alliancetheatre.org.

Senator Shafer new member of Southern States Energy Board

Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle has appointed State Sen. David Shafer of Duluth as one of Georgia's three members of the Southern States Energy Board.


Shafer

The Board encourages interstate collaboration in the areas of environmental protection, energy security and economic development. It provides technical and policy assistance to state lawmakers and administers federal research grants. Headquartered in Atlanta, it was created in 1960 by an interstate compact sanctioned by the United States Congress. Sixteen states and two territories belong to the compact.

The Board encourages interstate collaboration in the areas of environmental protection, energy security and economic development. It provides technical and policy assistance to state lawmakers and administers federal research grants. The Board is composed of the governors and two legislators from each member state and territory and one federal representative appointed by the President.

The Southern States Energy Board Web site is: www.sseb.org.


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Chestnut trees hit by blight; schools seek rebirth of species


Chestnut tree

Until the beginning of the 20th Century, the American chestnut (Castanea dentata [Marshall] Borkh) was one of the most prevalent and valuable trees in the eastern forests of the United States. The chestnut blight fungus (Cryphonectria parasitica), accidentally introduced around 1900, killed most of the mature trees in the natural range of the species, and today the species exists mainly as an understory shrub. Efforts currently underway in Georgia and other states, however, may eventually result in the restoration of American chestnut to eastern forests.

Before 1900 American chestnut was said to have composed up to one-quarter of the standing trees of the Appalachian forest including the north Georgia mountains, and in Georgia into the upper Piedmont. The trees were especially dominant on higher mountain ridges and flats. They grew very rapidly to heights of up to 100 feet, with trunks more than 6 feet in diameter. Chestnut was more useful than any hardwood in America, providing timber for houses, barns, and fences; tannin for the leather industry; and nuts for people and wildlife.

The first documentation of chestnut blight in North America was in 1904, when a forester noticed that the American chestnut trees growing at the Bronx Zoo in New York City were dying. The blight reached Georgia in the 1940s. American chestnut can still be found in eastern forests today, because it continues to re-sprout from surviving root systems in the soil. However, the tree rarely reaches 30 feet or produces nuts before it is attacked and killed by the fungus.

The American Chestnut Foundation's backcross breeding program has produced trees carrying blight-resistance genes from Chinese chestnut but with a growth habit close to that of their American chestnut parents, which supply 15/16 of their genome. Scientists at the University of Georgia and at the State University of New York have produced tissue cultures of American chestnut that are capable of producing thousands of structures called somatic embryos. These resemble seed embryos, can be germinated to produce seedlinglike plants. The embryogenic cultures are being tested as target material for inserting potential blight-resistance genes into American chestnut through genetic engineering.

In 2006 a stand of American chestnut trees, estimated to be between 20 and 30 years old, was discovered in Pine Mountain near Warm Springs. Composed of six 40-foot-tall trees, the stand is the southernmost representative of the species able to produce flowers and nuts. Pollen from the trees is expected to help scientists produce a breed resistant to the chestnut blight fungus.


If you can do that, why, that's really writing!

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-- Author, Historical Novelist, teacher and former editor E.L. Doctorow (1931- ), via Cindy Evans, Duluth.

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Number 7.44, Sept. 11, 2007

TODAY'S FOCUS: A Glimpse of Norcross As It Was in the 1940s
ELLIOTT BRACK:
You Don't Meet People Like Dorsey Guthrie Every Day
FEEDBACK: Compares Iraqi War Situation with that During the Civil War
UPCOMING: "Suicide Lane," New Park, Gift Shop Sale, Property Tax Due
NOTABLE: Alliance Sets Jacques Brel Cabaret; Shafer on State Energy Board
GEORGIA TIDBIT: Chestnut Trees, Hit by Blight, Seek Rebound with Research
TODAY'S QUOTE:
If You Can Do That, Why, That's Really Writing!


SATURDAY FUN.
Work is progressing toward the 24th annual Suwanee Day, set for Saturday, September 15, with activities beginning with a parade at 10 a.m. and activities continuing until 10 p.m. Set in the Town Center Park, the day will offer an array of activities with over 200 exhibitors. A fireworks show concludes the day at 9:45 p.m. At last year's Suwanee Day, Sarah and Clayton Cagle were all for any activity. They are children of Kim and Jeff Cagle of Suwanee.

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"Good writing is supposed to evoke sensation in the reader - not the fact that it is raining, but the feeling of being rained upon."

-- Author, Historical Novelist, teacher and former editor E.L. Doctorow (1931- ), via Cindy Evans, Duluth.

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